tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post462896841608093383..comments2023-10-25T12:05:13.761-04:00Comments on Barbara Martin: My Town Monday - TorontoBarbara Martinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-60555012053519797332010-07-05T15:25:18.149-04:002010-07-05T15:25:18.149-04:00I just saw this post. It's a thoughtful, well...I just saw this post. It's a thoughtful, well-written one. Those violent protesters are not protesting anything. They are pushing at the government in the hopes of damaging our civil rights. <br /><br />My big question is: Have the world leaders never heard of teleconferencing? Or, doing this on a ship far out at sea? Save wear and tear on everyone.Texannehttp://texanne.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-49106653780231050502010-07-04T22:44:04.115-04:002010-07-04T22:44:04.115-04:00Crowd mentality can be frightening. It's a wak...Crowd mentality can be frightening. It's a wake-up call to all of us Cdns. We're not any different than any other place in this world. Unfortunately.<br /><br />Thanks for the up-close view.Gabriele Goldstonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04481625919437738131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-86667796467890502932010-06-30T14:16:23.460-04:002010-06-30T14:16:23.460-04:00Barbara... you made me laugh. Your comment to me w...Barbara... you made me laugh. Your comment to me was so diplomatic. :-)Richard Levangiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16596356126446766607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-21920826056639517412010-06-30T12:35:44.162-04:002010-06-30T12:35:44.162-04:00I'm all for peaceful demonstrations, it's ...I'm all for peaceful demonstrations, it's a right that mustn't be hampered. <br /><br />The problem with violent demonstrations is that they can end up restricting certain freedoms, perhaps those of people going about their everyday business.67 Not Out (Mike Perry)http://www.67notout.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-25590797363379926892010-06-30T10:27:30.356-04:002010-06-30T10:27:30.356-04:00Barbara, this is a marvelously well written, thoug...Barbara, this is a marvelously well written, thoughtful piece. Very impressive and thought provoking!Rickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14546882686381428986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-13063421094140678712010-06-29T22:26:15.774-04:002010-06-29T22:26:15.774-04:00A single father from Pickering who jumped on the p...A single father from Pickering who jumped on the police car in the photo had been arrested, detained and charged had his $4,500 bail denied by the Crown prosecutor. He had blamed the mobs' actions even after admitting to jumping on the car, trying to take one of the doors off, and stealing a police helmut and jacket.Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-42693966999937855542010-06-29T22:19:14.247-04:002010-06-29T22:19:14.247-04:00Erik, welcome.
The violence during the G20 Summit...Erik, welcome.<br /><br />The violence during the G20 Summit took most by surprise who watched the news. The police tend to restrain themselves in Toronto as the special interest groups cry 'foul' at the least little thing. With the wide sweep and roundup on Sunday many people found themselves on the wrong side of the law for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Guilt by Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-86982391228590440332010-06-29T18:56:48.741-04:002010-06-29T18:56:48.741-04:00My God, I've walked through where those photos...My God, I've walked through where those photos are -- reminds me of Chicago when I was a little kid, scary stuff. Days of Rage, Weather Underground later . . . without the baton swinging police . . . weird all around . . .Erik Donald Francehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02332500850365598564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-50684654375280566322010-06-29T15:28:51.069-04:002010-06-29T15:28:51.069-04:00Richard, times are indeed changing. Whether for go...Richard, times are indeed changing. Whether for good or bad only time will tell.<br /><br />LW, demonstrations are fine provided they get the message across to have laws changed. Those working in the downtown area of Toronto tend to find them a nuisance.<br /><br />Bernita, thank you.Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-19424578293467311302010-06-29T11:34:08.850-04:002010-06-29T11:34:08.850-04:00Excellent post, Barbara!Excellent post, Barbara!Bernitahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05264585685253812090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-69009706427815448282010-06-29T09:02:49.024-04:002010-06-29T09:02:49.024-04:00the demonstrations are ongoing, a march planned fr...the demonstrations are ongoing, a march planned from the cop shop to queens park... last i heard :(laughingwolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873675614347328116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-4150076293261288522010-06-29T07:07:49.300-04:002010-06-29T07:07:49.300-04:00As someone who lived in Halifax during the 1995 G8...As someone who lived in Halifax during the 1995 G8, it seems to me that every decision taken about hosting this one has been the wrong decision. True, the world has changed, but without the huge barricades and overwhelming police presence, we had world leaders stopping their cars and getting out to shake hands, to chat with people. I was just walking through my downtown neighborhood when the Richard Levangiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16596356126446766607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-20837574758500427252010-06-28T21:27:55.606-04:002010-06-28T21:27:55.606-04:00Clare, excellent comment. A man who works at a low...Clare, excellent comment. A man who works at a low income job in downtown Toronto, left work at a restaurant and was scooped up by the police and arrested for being in a group of violent persons.<br /><br />The Toronto Mayor is asking Ottawa to help with the expense of cleaning up the damage, but Ottawa is hedging. Most of the damage that occurred was due to riots, which is not covered under mostBarbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-65287164741513445322010-06-28T21:16:37.740-04:002010-06-28T21:16:37.740-04:00Gary, I agree. I heard some of the spouses of the ...Gary, I agree. I heard some of the spouses of the leaders desired to do shopping and sightseeing in Toronto.<br /><br />Leah, Toronto is not as pristine and good as some people think. There is a considerable amount of crime here with several neighbourhood residents firing weapons during the night: especially in the Jane and Finch area.<br /><br />Teresa, I was shocked when I saw the police had Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-609821042213783932010-06-28T21:10:09.120-04:002010-06-28T21:10:09.120-04:00Barrie, it was a topic that needed to be discussed...Barrie, it was a topic that needed to be discussed.<br /><br />Wil, when the demonstrations are peaceful they are more likely to produce the proper response from the government.<br /><br />RuneE, unfortunately the police are always seen as an offending party when, in truth, they are trying to protect the public from harm. If a person doesn't adhere to the rules then there are consequences.Barbara Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00610140328527165017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-69046847946483654892010-06-28T13:34:46.580-04:002010-06-28T13:34:46.580-04:00I find it appalling that they did such damage to p...I find it appalling that they did such damage to property. How did that in anyway affect the G20 summit? What were the cyclists (and some other groups) demanding more rights doing at the G20 summit? If you have a cause you want to protest for, do it at the right time and place, don't just jump on any bandwagon going by.Rebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05318594769530526005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-25783713187596111602010-06-28T13:02:54.855-04:002010-06-28T13:02:54.855-04:00Cliche as it is it truly does only take a few bad ...Cliche as it is it truly does only take a few bad apples to ruin the bunch.Travis Erwinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09420879160702098979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-21891385110449129572010-06-28T11:31:38.350-04:002010-06-28T11:31:38.350-04:00What I dislike is that when there's violence a...What I dislike is that when there's violence at these kinds of protests, ostensibly against oppression in some financial or politico-social form, the mayhem is invariably and unfairly oppressive to the everyday, local citizens who have to pay for and deal with the ugly aftermath. How exactly does that further any noble aims of claiming to speak for the"little guy?"Clare2ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06105229820107294986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-8888908140393322782010-06-28T10:27:32.958-04:002010-06-28T10:27:32.958-04:00Thanks for sharing, Barbara. It's terrible wha...Thanks for sharing, Barbara. It's terrible what happened.Teresahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12831169405732892599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-2010531638256320182010-06-28T07:54:20.584-04:002010-06-28T07:54:20.584-04:00It was hard to believe this was happening in Canad...It was hard to believe this was happening in Canada.Leah J. Utashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08497599109798015888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-37451014404817480942010-06-28T07:02:21.795-04:002010-06-28T07:02:21.795-04:00I am always wondering why these meetings do not oc...I am always wondering why these meetings do not occur on distant island resorts...Gary's third pottery bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13517401528128108791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-40131693913508525472010-06-28T05:15:42.930-04:002010-06-28T05:15:42.930-04:00It is a pity that necessary demonstrations shall b...It is a pity that necessary demonstrations shall be destroyed by parties that are present just for wrecking havoc and not for supporting the issue at hand. One sees the same at may other occasions, from sports to celebrations. A discussion of the limits of freedom of speech compared to the role of the authorities is difficult but necessary.Rune Eidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01008247272056395901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-73308645213242112862010-06-28T05:08:11.775-04:002010-06-28T05:08:11.775-04:00You are absolutely right! This is not the proper w...You are absolutely right! This is not the proper way to demonstrate against something. In the seventies we demonstrated against the nucleair arms and it was always peaceful.Reader Wilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06384603525251159272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4476278785366059110.post-17754294218775171382010-06-28T01:52:08.382-04:002010-06-28T01:52:08.382-04:00I was wondering if this might be the topic of your...I was wondering if this might be the topic of your MTM. How appalling. And sad. It seems so unCanadian. It really does seem as though the vandals were there to wreak havoc and weren't concerned about protesting any true issues. (Welcome back to My Town Monday, BTW)Barriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04678698296265168217noreply@blogger.com